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		<title>By: Rob Waterson</title>
		<link>http://waronsocialism.com/2010/03/08/liberalism-immoral-not-just-wrong/#comment-270</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff,

Clearly you have not been paying attention to this debate because all of your shallow talking points have been blown out of the water countless times.

Accusations of racism are the most popular ad hominem attack from the Left - it shows that you are both out of ideas and losing the argument.

Your historical revision is breathtaking.  Did you notice that Mr. Obama reauthorized the PATRIOT Act?  How does that fit into your narrative, comrade?

I am guessing that you are a &quot;911 truther&quot; as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Clearly you have not been paying attention to this debate because all of your shallow talking points have been blown out of the water countless times.</p>
<p>Accusations of racism are the most popular ad hominem attack from the Left &#8211; it shows that you are both out of ideas and losing the argument.</p>
<p>Your historical revision is breathtaking.  Did you notice that Mr. Obama reauthorized the PATRIOT Act?  How does that fit into your narrative, comrade?</p>
<p>I am guessing that you are a &#8220;911 truther&#8221; as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;there is no arguing this article without sounding like the immoral unproductive person&quot;? So you have both painted any differing opinion as not just different or even wrong, but immoral and unproductive. How telling. This is EXACTLY the type of hypocritical judgment that makes most of the world laugh at you pseudo-intellectual conspiracy theorists. And the rest of us are simply appalled at having to share what&#039;s left of this country with you. 
  I suppose you consider laws &quot;FORCING&quot; education upon your children or &quot;FORCING&quot; you to obtain auto insurance to be foreshadowing of the evil socialists plan...it is. The plan is to educate your children until they can actually think for themselves, beyond your brainwashing rhetoric...while avoiding excessive costs from uninsured accidents. Yes, evil, isn&#039;t it. Education. Health care reform. And now he&#039;s trying to regulate the horrid financial practices that lead to this recession? (and your puppet master&#039;s bonuses?) What&#039;s next, controls on unfair foreign trade? ending useless killing in the middle east? 
  You can sit and smugly debate any number of twisted theories you feel supports your inane point of view, but let me shine a little light on your elite chatter: the rest of the country, indeed, THE WORLD, thinks your INSANE. Because here&#039;s what THEY SEE, WITH THEIR OWN EYES:

 1. Your party &amp; it&#039;s leader relaxes banking and finance regulations, directly contributing to the worst recession in 3 generations, solely to benefit themselves and their richest contributors. YOU (the supporters and defenders of that party, current anti-obamists and tea party fanatics) all cheered and clapped.
 When our party does what HAS to be done to fix your DISASTER, you scream and point fingers, blaming us for YOUR mess.
  2. Your team starts endless pointless wars based on lies and greed for private contracts for your subsidiaries. YOU wave flags.
  When this president tries to end these wars, and change your policies that CREATE TENFOLD the terrorists it ever stopped, you call him Muslim and SATAN and depict him as weak or evil. 

 Where was your outrage at Bush&#039;s trouncing of our freedoms in the name of patriotism? His torture policies and wire taps and corruption were FAR more damaging and controlling than a health insurance mandate or banking regulations. The free-thinking world sees the most CENTRIST president in 50 years bending over backwards to try and gather bipartisan support and ideas. Meanwhile, YOUR side has never shown more SPITE, LIES, HATE, HYPOCRISY, PROPAGANDA, and LACK OF HINDSIGHT. 
  Clinton, Carter, LBJ, and Kennedy were all MUCH more liberal leaning than Obama. And less likely to seek republican support or ideas. They were not commonly labeled Marxist, Communist, or Socialist. They certainly weren&#039;t depicted as Hitler or the Joker. Even your criminal Nixon, your feeble racist Reagan, and your father-son tag team oil tycoons turned war profiteers weren&#039;t as publicly demonized as this president has been. 

  THAT is why your cause is labeled racist. Because there is NO OTHER EXPLANATION for your hypocritical behavior. You can&#039;t STAND being beaten by a man of color, ESPECIALLY when it seems he&#039;s intelligent and likely to enact important improvements that might just show the American people how change can work when it&#039;s not written by the rich and corrupt and enforced by the ignorant and hateful. 
 Or maybe you&#039;re truly colorblind, but just so spiteful over losing that you&#039;ll just say and believe ANYTHING to be back in the driver&#039;s seat again. 

   Either way, we&#039;ve had enough. We won&#039;t tolerate your hate of all which differs from you, your fear of real progress, or your mess that you constantly spew forth from your mechanisms of greed and corruption. And if your politicians don&#039;t wise up and start focusing on real issues and stop braying NO at everything like spoiled, little, obese children, they might just find that future ballots have two parties...and republican WON&#039;T be one of them.

(And since you&#039;re clearly incapable of sensible debate, I won&#039;t bother reading your replies...I&#039;m sure they&#039;re &quot;immoral and unproductive....&quot; )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is no arguing this article without sounding like the immoral unproductive person&#8221;? So you have both painted any differing opinion as not just different or even wrong, but immoral and unproductive. How telling. This is EXACTLY the type of hypocritical judgment that makes most of the world laugh at you pseudo-intellectual conspiracy theorists. And the rest of us are simply appalled at having to share what&#8217;s left of this country with you.<br />
  I suppose you consider laws &#8220;FORCING&#8221; education upon your children or &#8220;FORCING&#8221; you to obtain auto insurance to be foreshadowing of the evil socialists plan&#8230;it is. The plan is to educate your children until they can actually think for themselves, beyond your brainwashing rhetoric&#8230;while avoiding excessive costs from uninsured accidents. Yes, evil, isn&#8217;t it. Education. Health care reform. And now he&#8217;s trying to regulate the horrid financial practices that lead to this recession? (and your puppet master&#8217;s bonuses?) What&#8217;s next, controls on unfair foreign trade? ending useless killing in the middle east?<br />
  You can sit and smugly debate any number of twisted theories you feel supports your inane point of view, but let me shine a little light on your elite chatter: the rest of the country, indeed, THE WORLD, thinks your INSANE. Because here&#8217;s what THEY SEE, WITH THEIR OWN EYES:</p>
<p> 1. Your party &amp; it&#8217;s leader relaxes banking and finance regulations, directly contributing to the worst recession in 3 generations, solely to benefit themselves and their richest contributors. YOU (the supporters and defenders of that party, current anti-obamists and tea party fanatics) all cheered and clapped.<br />
 When our party does what HAS to be done to fix your DISASTER, you scream and point fingers, blaming us for YOUR mess.<br />
  2. Your team starts endless pointless wars based on lies and greed for private contracts for your subsidiaries. YOU wave flags.<br />
  When this president tries to end these wars, and change your policies that CREATE TENFOLD the terrorists it ever stopped, you call him Muslim and SATAN and depict him as weak or evil. </p>
<p> Where was your outrage at Bush&#8217;s trouncing of our freedoms in the name of patriotism? His torture policies and wire taps and corruption were FAR more damaging and controlling than a health insurance mandate or banking regulations. The free-thinking world sees the most CENTRIST president in 50 years bending over backwards to try and gather bipartisan support and ideas. Meanwhile, YOUR side has never shown more SPITE, LIES, HATE, HYPOCRISY, PROPAGANDA, and LACK OF HINDSIGHT.<br />
  Clinton, Carter, LBJ, and Kennedy were all MUCH more liberal leaning than Obama. And less likely to seek republican support or ideas. They were not commonly labeled Marxist, Communist, or Socialist. They certainly weren&#8217;t depicted as Hitler or the Joker. Even your criminal Nixon, your feeble racist Reagan, and your father-son tag team oil tycoons turned war profiteers weren&#8217;t as publicly demonized as this president has been. </p>
<p>  THAT is why your cause is labeled racist. Because there is NO OTHER EXPLANATION for your hypocritical behavior. You can&#8217;t STAND being beaten by a man of color, ESPECIALLY when it seems he&#8217;s intelligent and likely to enact important improvements that might just show the American people how change can work when it&#8217;s not written by the rich and corrupt and enforced by the ignorant and hateful.<br />
 Or maybe you&#8217;re truly colorblind, but just so spiteful over losing that you&#8217;ll just say and believe ANYTHING to be back in the driver&#8217;s seat again. </p>
<p>   Either way, we&#8217;ve had enough. We won&#8217;t tolerate your hate of all which differs from you, your fear of real progress, or your mess that you constantly spew forth from your mechanisms of greed and corruption. And if your politicians don&#8217;t wise up and start focusing on real issues and stop braying NO at everything like spoiled, little, obese children, they might just find that future ballots have two parties&#8230;and republican WON&#8217;T be one of them.</p>
<p>(And since you&#8217;re clearly incapable of sensible debate, I won&#8217;t bother reading your replies&#8230;I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re &#8220;immoral and unproductive&#8230;.&#8221; )</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://waronsocialism.com/2010/03/08/liberalism-immoral-not-just-wrong/#comment-205</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This peice is so perfectly written.  While my opinion may be biast because I share the same opinions at Rob, I just feel there is no arguing this article without sounding like the immoral unproductive person he describes. 

 &quot;....statism that the left feels is palatable enough to ease otherwise freedom-loving Americans into living under a soft tyranny.&quot;

That is a perfect description.  Soft tyranny is truly what this administration is after.  They may not be looking to recreate the catastrophe of a Hitler nation, but they are certainly looking to seek control over our freedoms by making us dependent on them.  Just as a child is dependent on their parent to provide a roof over their head as well as food, in exchange for being obedient to the parents.

I fear liberals truly are blind to the lack of compassion in Obama&#039;s plan.  I find the immorality plaguing our nation to be a serious show of the 1960&#039;s hippie generation not only coming into power, but raising their own children to follow such immoral ideas, who then raised THEIR children the same way, none of them having a fighting chance to know better, because after all, we only know what we are taught to believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This peice is so perfectly written.  While my opinion may be biast because I share the same opinions at Rob, I just feel there is no arguing this article without sounding like the immoral unproductive person he describes. </p>
<p> &#8220;&#8230;.statism that the left feels is palatable enough to ease otherwise freedom-loving Americans into living under a soft tyranny.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a perfect description.  Soft tyranny is truly what this administration is after.  They may not be looking to recreate the catastrophe of a Hitler nation, but they are certainly looking to seek control over our freedoms by making us dependent on them.  Just as a child is dependent on their parent to provide a roof over their head as well as food, in exchange for being obedient to the parents.</p>
<p>I fear liberals truly are blind to the lack of compassion in Obama&#8217;s plan.  I find the immorality plaguing our nation to be a serious show of the 1960&#8242;s hippie generation not only coming into power, but raising their own children to follow such immoral ideas, who then raised THEIR children the same way, none of them having a fighting chance to know better, because after all, we only know what we are taught to believe.</p>
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